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Posted 5 August  2006

AN INTERVIEW WITH LIZA TARBUCK          

Britain's Top Dog | Channel 4 - August 

The TV version of Liza Tarbuck is one of the most cheerful, upbeat, fun and entertaining people you could wish to have on that magic little box in the corner of your living room. In short, too good to be true. The real life version is doubtless a sour-faced, monosyllabic misery-guts who hates everyone and everything and wants to be left alone to read gothic horror novels and listen to Wagner.

Except it turns out she's not too good to be true. Far from it. When she's not cheerfully jumping from one anecdote to another she's roaring with laughter. She is, she explains, just back from acupuncture. Well, if that's what sticking needles in your body does for someone, I'd like to come back as a pincushion, please. Liza took time out from being ebullient just long enough to talk about her new series for Channel 4, Britain's Top Dog, as well revealing how a trip to Zambia changed her life, and why proposals by post have failed to bowl her over.

Why did you want to get involved in Britain's Top Dog?
The thing that sold it to me was that nobody's done a dog show other than Crufts. In retrospect, we now know why, because it's really difficult to film the dogs in action. But our show's got a bit of a twist, in that the people are given cameras to take home so that we can see them doing their homework on video diaries.

So it didn't always run smoothly?
When I initially got involved with it, I thought it was important to do a pilot, which is quite rare to do these days. In this day and age, you can put something on for a series that hasn't had a pilot, and it doesn't always work, and it's not given a second chance. That's why a pilot's so good - you get a chance to sit down and discuss every single element of the show. And the best lessons you can ever learn are by making mistakes. So, in the pilot, we realised we should do several things in different ways, and several ways of presenting all the information to give it that lovely momentum so that when you're sitting down in front of it you feel like you're on a journey.

It's not just about the dogs being shiny-coated pedigrees with triple-barrelled names, is it?
No, not at all. Of course, joy of joys if there's a couple of beautiful pure breeds, but the big deal about this show is that all the dogs are pets. Any dog owner will tell you that some dogs are particularly good at being trained, and some dogs don't do anything. I wonder just how much the competitors would have got involved if they'd realised just how much we were expecting them to do.

How did you judge the dogs? What did you get them to do?
There's three categories. You've got agility, which speaks for itself - we've all seen the agility courses, getting them to jump and go over A-frames and through tunnels. Then you've got the scent - sorting out a particular scented garment or ball or bone and then bringing it back, which is the biggest deal. They might get it, but will the buggers bring it back? And then the last one is doggie dancing.

Excuse me?
It's a sport in its own right. That involves a piece of music and the absolute beautiful synergy of dog and owner coming together in a ballet - which of course isn't necessarily the truth of it. Getting the dog to move appropriately to the music - it might work with the lyrics or with the rhythm. There's a lot of dignity up for shattering on that one, believe me.

Are you a dog-lover yourself?
I certainly am. Tarbucks have always had dogs, to the point where nephew's actually named after one of our favourites, Louis the Labrador. Now I have Welsh Wilf - a rescue dog, from Wales, obviously.

It's all very well having dogs at home, but what about that old showbiz maxim about not working with children or animals?
They say that the most stressful thing in your life is, for example, move house or divorce. I think when anybody gives you a maxim, you should go and have a look at it for yourself. It is exhausting, and the dogs really do what they want to do come the day. But I couldn't not get involved, it's right up my alley, this sort of thing. I love being with people and I love being with dogs, so the two combined was paradise for me.

You started off wanting to be an artist. Do you still paint?
Yes, I paint and I mosaic. I can do all of the things that I actually want to by just managing what jobs I say yes and no to. I think the biggest deal for me is, because dad was famous when I first started, my biggest thing was not to be in his shadow, but to do the things that really interested me. And whilst I absolutely adore acting, actors don't get paid very well unless they're doing big Hollywood films and stuff, so it was a question of necessity finding other things to do, and then realising that I don't have to do just one thing.

Is your art a commercial enterprise as well?
One guy did ask me to do a show, but I don't feel like it would be appropriate. At some point I think I will. But then I still think I'm 21, so that there's plenty of time to do everything. Which is why I think you have to manage your career very well; why are you doing a particular job, what are your interests, how can you make time for them within the framework of your job. I've worked quite hard to make sure I've got as much time as I need to recover from the job or just potter. I love being at home.

What about writing?
I don't know that I am a writer. It's like, I'm not very good at having my photo taken, because I think I'm better animated, and I feel the same about writing really. I get a bit too earnest. I'm much better spontaneous, which is why I like working in situations that'll give me spontaneity.

Talking of spontaneity, is there anything more scary than going on Have I Got News for You?
I don't find it scary actually, I really don't. I think my only pressure is that because the ladies aren't very well represented on it, I always want to do well for the girls.

You went to Zambia a couple of years ago for Comic Relief. Was that a life-changing experience?
Yes. Absolutely and totally life-changing. I came back knowing that I had to tell all the people I loved that I love them. And I think when you see people who have absolutely nothing, and they're just working on their own moral code and their own sense of what's right and wrong, and they're just getting on with things, it makes buying stuff and accumulating things absolutely rubbish. Being worried whether you've got the right jeans, or the most trendy boots, or the right car, it all becomes rubbish. It's a very good lesson. In an ideal world everybody would go over there. We met a load of British Airways hostesses at our hotel, and we were chatting with them about what had gone on and what we'd seen and how we'd felt, and one of the girls said that what they did every time they flew into Lusaka was they'd bring a stash of pencils, pens, clothes, shoes or whatever. And on their day off, when they should be sleeping, they'd go to a local orphanage and school. We get very used to hearing all the bad news all the time, grim stories about this, that and the other. But there's a lot more of this sort of thing that goes on than we know. You should try and perform a random act of kindness once a day.

Any other advice from the Liza Tarbuck guide to living?
Just be able to stop and notice things. Yesterday in the park - this is why I love walking dogs - there was a steam fair leaving the park - it had been there all week - and this great big old steamroller engine is chugging out, and I thought "I feel really lucky that I'm actually allowed to see this. I happen to be there to witness this old mode of transport causing a bit of chaos and chugging on its way. And then this morning a butterfly landed on me. I felt blessed. Those are the sort of things that you notice dog-walking. Like the changes in the seasons. Even if you don't want to go out, it's so bloomin' good for you, it's good for the soul. We had a couple of audience sections that had come from Old Folks' Homes in an area where we were filming, and they all without doubt said that they missed their pets, because they weren't allowed to take them into the home. And that's the time in their life when they really need their pets. They need a little quirky dog with bad breath, insisting you take it out for a walk.

I read and interview where you said that you'd been sent a marriage proposal through the post. Does that happen to you often?
It's happened quite a bit!

Who thinks it's a good idea to propose to a celebrity they've never met through the post?
You need to ask them - I'll forward you some of them, the pictures are belting. Every now and then I get a bloomin' gem through the post, and if it's good enough it makes it to the hall of fame. I had a friend who came round and went to the loo, where I obviously stash a lot of these things, and all I could hear was her laughing at one particular letter that I got ten years ago, that still makes me laugh. It's one of those things that just keeps me going - that somebody would bother to do that, and think that you'd say yes.

Britain's Top Dog is on Channel 4 on Sundays at 5:55pm from July 16th.

By Benjie Goodhart

 


                              

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